The MOD is dying...

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The MOD is dying...

Postby CeltiberoFrog » Fri Feb 20, 2015 5:54 pm

AWFULL UNSTABILITY for several weeks (or months)

Dunno what's going on, but no finished battles for ages.
I never saw that since first days of NTW3

Can something be done to about it ?
I have never been so fed up, and I will probably leave the MOD after so many years of faithfull gaming...

Have we builtup something so nice but too complex to be reliable ?
Really sad.

All my hopes rely on a skilled fellow who could fix that up, otherwise i'll say farewell to this community.

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Re: The MOD is dying...

Postby Wym... » Fri Feb 20, 2015 6:21 pm

I had the same probs which lasted several weeks......though the last 2-3 weeks have been far more stable....well as stable as this mod can be :confused:
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Postby [Grognard]_Christ2burd » Fri Feb 20, 2015 11:51 pm

Tunggle ?? :doh:
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Re: The MOD is dying...

Postby Lord Desaix » Sat Feb 21, 2015 11:39 am

Sometimes community must face this engine is not suitable for 6+ players long battle.

Recently we've been enjoying large and long HB in 2vs2, sometimes 3vs2 with good stability and high degree of completion. It looks like 6 players is definitely worsening the chance of finishing. But Tunngle is mandatory for us, we no more risk playing with Steam.

The few HBs we had with Sir Frog were definitely enjoable, I hope to see you again sometimes, player of your caliber and politeness are always welcome. I know battle repetitiveness is not appreciated by some, but with 30+ scenarios now we have a decent variability. Yesterday for example we played Hohenlinden which had been forgotten for more than a year.

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Re: The MOD is dying...

Postby Lord Lancier » Sat Feb 21, 2015 2:31 pm

Though not played so many MPs with v5 now, agree with Desaix about 3v3 ~ 4v4 comparison so far.
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Re: The MOD is dying...

Postby Lord Davn » Sat Feb 21, 2015 3:19 pm

There have been numerous discussions that when Steam adds new games to their online severs (like Attila) the older games such as NTW get moved over to secondary servers that are not as fast or reliable as their primary ones. Also keep in mind that Steam does most of their maintenance work on Tuesdays so this NOT an ideal time to get into large 4vs4 battles online. You can check the current Steam status here at "downdetector" https://downdetector.com/status/steam

As Lord Desaix notes Tunngle is an excellent alternative to Steam :wink:
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Re: The MOD is dying...

Postby oOIYvYIOo » Sat Feb 21, 2015 3:45 pm

Every day i have more than 10 invites to join battles ,unfortenly i have been quite busy with my clan and channel.
This mod will never die , and its far ,but very far of dying .We have had worst months. Campaign is being played for the first as it never was .
I think a solution to reduce the size of this mod therefore reducing problems, it would be to have a separated file for campaign work.
But again the problem of drops ,lag is from people computers and not the mod ,on the mp battle section.
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Re: The MOD is dying...

Postby Lord Davn » Sat Feb 21, 2015 4:30 pm

oOIYvYIOo wrote:I think a solution to reduce the size of this mod therefore reducing problems, it would be to have a separated file for campaign work.
We basically have three different NTW3 v5 mods to play already; MP, HB and SPC. The v5 launcher that Desaix & Sean worked on loads only the necessary files with mod mgr to play each one. That was thoroughly discussed before releasing NTW3 v5 with the MP battle mod taking priority to improve online game stability.
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Re: The MOD is dying...

Postby oOIYvYIOo » Sun Feb 22, 2015 12:30 am

Lord Davn wrote:We basically have three different NTW3 v5 mods to play already; MP, HB and SPC. The v5 launcher that Desaix & Sean worked on loads only the necessary files with mod mgr to play each one. That was thoroughly discussed before releasing NTW3 v5 with the MP battle mod taking priority to improve online game stability.


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Postby Lord Davn » Sun Feb 22, 2015 1:15 am

oOIYvYIOo wrote:Isn't all in one :question:
Yes you download and install one LARGE NTW3 v5 mod file to your HD. When you launch the MP battle game only those files run that mod are loaded by the mod mgr. The same applies when you play an HB or SPC game, it loads just the files that are needed to run those mods. We do share some files such as the NTW3_cl_common_v5.pack file which has all of those great NTW3 uniforms :mrgreen:

Lord Desaix and Sean make all of this work flawlessly with their custom NTW3 installer and desktop launcher.
Also credit goes to everyone who worked on the custom graphics for our mod:
http://www.twcenter.net/forums/showthread.php?417703-NTW3-v5-0-Team-amp-Credits
http://www.twcenter.net/forums/showthread.php?419314-NTW3-Artwork-amp-Graphics
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Re: The MOD is dying...

Postby Lord Fullin » Sun Feb 22, 2015 6:20 am

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Re: The MOD is dying...

Postby FireTight » Sun Feb 22, 2015 9:19 am

Lord Desaix wrote:Yesterday for example we played Hohenlinden which had been forgotten for more than a year.

Well, maybe in your HB group, but we played Hohenlinden quite recently. :)

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Re: The MOD is dying...

Postby Zarathustra ITA » Mon Feb 23, 2015 6:00 pm

I dropped the game for a while but ultimately seems to be stable, I enjoyed nice 4v4 matches even with americans players.

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Re: The MOD is dying...

Postby Wym... » Mon Feb 23, 2015 9:52 pm

Sunday evening GMT we had a very stable no drop 4v4 on a HB map so things must be improving :wink:
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Re: The MOD is dying...

Postby Zarathustra ITA » Tue Feb 24, 2015 9:16 am

But as already said we all know most of problems come from single users troubles (bad connections, old machines etc.). Now we all know who is reliable at least in terms of connection stability, and I am one of those so do not hesitate to invite me :razz:

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Re: The MOD is dying...

Postby turcoman » Tue Feb 24, 2015 8:09 pm

FireTight wrote:
Lord Desaix wrote:Yesterday for example we played Hohenlinden which had been forgotten for more than a year.

Well, maybe in your HB group, but we played Hohenlinden quite recently. :)


Hohenlinden without LCS is more likely a classic game on Hohenlinden HB map unfortunately...
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Re: The MOD is dying...

Postby FireTight » Wed Feb 25, 2015 3:27 pm

turcoman wrote:
FireTight wrote:
Lord Desaix wrote:Yesterday for example we played Hohenlinden which had been forgotten for more than a year.

Well, maybe in your HB group, but we played Hohenlinden quite recently. :)


Hohenlinden without LCS is more likely a classic game on Hohenlinden HB map unfortunately...

Whatever, bro! :P

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Re: The MOD is dying...

Postby Gonzo » Wed Feb 25, 2015 8:49 pm

So they play HB without LCS? lol

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Re: The MOD is dying...

Postby FireTight » Thu Feb 26, 2015 5:59 am

Gonzo wrote:So they play HB without LCS? lol

I really don't want to open this topic again, so I'm just gonna say this - just because we don't use LCS (but our own rule instead) doesn't mean we can't have fun and enjoy HB. :)

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Re: The MOD is dying...

Postby DOC » Thu Feb 26, 2015 10:31 am

FireTight wrote:
Gonzo wrote:So they play HB without LCS? lol

I really don't want to open this topic again, so I'm just gonna say this - just because we don't use LCS (but our own rule instead) doesn't mean we can't have fun and enjoy HB. :)


Yep its entirely up to you, but its still not an HB.
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Re: The MOD is dying...

Postby FireTight » Thu Feb 26, 2015 12:13 pm

DOC wrote:
FireTight wrote:
Gonzo wrote:So they play HB without LCS? lol

I really don't want to open this topic again, so I'm just gonna say this - just because we don't use LCS (but our own rule instead) doesn't mean we can't have fun and enjoy HB. :)


Yep its entirely up to you, but its still not an HB.

I feel like Hus in Konstanz. :)

Edit: Let's clear things up. Desaix wrote: "Yesterday for example we played Hohenlinden which had been forgotten for more than a year." I, without any secret intentions or scoffs, said "Well, maybe in your HB group, but we played Hohenlinden quite recently. :)". And all I got is few people came in and scream "LCS!!!!" in my face. Really, guys?

Imagine this was about real life events. Few guys playing in-line hockey and they like it, don't bother anyone. Then, few ice hockey players come in and start yelling "hahaha, this is not real hockey", etc. I know it sounds ridiculous, but it's the same situation. I know there are some differences between those two sports (=> LCS), but basically it's the same thing. And I don't see any reason why in-line hockey players couldn't call their game "hockey". :)

We use our rules, you use your rules and I don't understand why would one side start mocking the other one just because of that. Hell, some players could even play in both groups. I like "our" rule more, but that doesn't mean I will never play with LCS (and I actually did few times). If the majority of players want to play with LCS, I don't mind.

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Re: The MOD is dying...

Postby TNC SITH » Fri Jan 22, 2016 4:15 pm

NEVER how dare you, just got back in to this mod game so realistic love it. :evil:

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Re: The MOD is dying...

Postby McClelland » Wed Mar 30, 2016 3:19 am

anyone still playing this? I'm about to download everything. Hoping there's still a following. I remember being here 10 years ago and having an absolute blast.

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Postby Lord Fullin » Wed Mar 30, 2016 4:49 am

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Re: The MOD is dying...

Postby oOIYvYIOo » Wed Mar 30, 2016 2:08 pm

McClelland wrote:anyone still playing this? I'm about to download everything. Hoping there's still a following. I remember being here 10 years ago and having an absolute blast.


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