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Constructive feedback, suggestions, bugs

Postby Black Serpent » Wed Jan 31, 2018 7:54 am

Version NTW3 7.6

Terrific job Lordz, this mod is amazing and hugely appreciated by us fans! Can’t be emphasizd enough how deeply NTW3 changed the game for the better. I thought it would be a good idea to have a thread where fans could put together feedback, report any bugs and give suggestions for improvement in future releases - always assuming a civilized and constructive discussion of course ;)

Below are some points I personally think may be helpful.
:exclaim: - SPC v7.6 Oxfordshire regiment UK doesn’t have a unit card
:exclaim: - Land & Naval: would remove particle trails, imo they look fake, ‘alien invaders’-like


Commodore Wesley re. this and new naval crews!
:arrow: - SPC mod sailing of the Victory seems sluggish compared to other ships, maybe there’s a bug?

:arrow: - SPC Naval: more smoke (Darthmod particle trails ans smoke effects are nice, though granted they slow the game) - already PMd Lordz

:arrow: maybe use a more neutral background color for portraits of generals/admirals (grey? desaturated dark blue?) as well as for the color bands on ship cards (which I guess denote their class?)

:arrow: Naval war of 1812: not sure if it’s possible to add US faction in SPC without home region, but was thinking just a few fleets spawned e.g. in the trading posts in Atlantic or Mediterranean. Their heavy super frigates (Chesapeake, Constellation and of course Constitution!) with black and white color scheme :D could damage British trade and lighter frigates during and after 1812. Also for SP/MP naval battles, would be awesome to have US faction, for frigate duels!

Looking forward to hearing your thoughts,
cheers Lordz

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Re: Constructive feedback, suggestions, bugs

Postby Lord Cosak » Wed Jan 31, 2018 4:45 pm

Nothing about the MP battles?

It must be because it's flawless.

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Re: Constructive feedback, suggestions, bugs

Postby Lord Davn » Wed Jan 31, 2018 7:55 pm

Lord Cosak wrote:Nothing about the MP battles? . . It must be because it's flawless.

An unbiased opinion from our our mod leader :techie-hiding:


:exclaim: The v7.7 release will fix the info card & uniform issues:
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:exclaim: You can adjust the particle trails in the game graphic setting by lowering the value from ultra or high to suit your own preference.



:arrow: The color background for the Admirals & Generals comes with the pics that we download for the mod.
.....The color bands are from the Grand Fleet mod that Lord Wesley uses for the NTW3 naval mod.
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:arrow: Lord Wesley can comment on the rest of your suggestions as his time permits.
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Re: Constructive feedback, suggestions, bugs

Postby Black Serpent » Thu Feb 01, 2018 8:27 pm

Haha yes, MP battles ARE pretty close to being flawless. Though I HAVE had an issue with 6lb horse artillery (playing as UK at least): if you try to re-limber and move somewhere else it gets stuck and won't move, nor un-limber back where it was and continue shooting - beomes pretty much useless. Happened a couple of times, not sure if it's fixable.

It's not too hard to change image background of generals/admirals' unit cards, if it's just a question of photo shopping an image, and it's not a must to keep the sky-blue background. I *could* have a go at it myself, if you think it's a good idea?

Particle trails: I think the adjustable quantity in the game's graphics settings is "particle effects", which I thought meant the level of detail in smoke, explosions etc, which I'd like to keep high for atmospheric value; What I meant was, the bullet and cannon ball particle trails are I think adjustable in the db pack tables, and imo should be removed altogether ...

Curious to know if adding the US faction is doable? It must be, at least in naval battles as you guys managed to add it for land battles. In the SPC I haven't got a clue if it's possible to hack the initial conditions and add one or more US ships on the map and the US as a faction without a home region in Europe? I've already PM'd Lord Wesley, waiting to hear back.

US ships were very much present in Europe around this time period, fighting the Barbary wars in the Mediterranean. After 1812, their heavy frigates had pretty good success beating Royal Navy equivalent(ish) ships, which shocked and demoralised the Brits. Would be nice to re-enact some of these frigate duels in MP battles. Anyway, if there is interest in this, I'd be happy to provide historical/technical ship details etc (though there must be loads available, the Americans are really proud of this part of their history).

Thanks for your replies, cheers

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Re: Constructive feedback, suggestions, bugs

Postby Lord Davn » Sun Feb 04, 2018 9:35 pm

Black Serpent wrote:It's not too hard to change image background of generals/admirals' unit cards. I *could* have a go at it myself ?
Curious to know if adding the US faction is doable?

Give it a try if you'd like to change the background for the unit cards for the SPC mod. I'll pm you the blank unit card files that we use.

I thought about adding some US naval & land units to the SPC mod but the coding gets complicated in the db tables and would likely make the campaign game more unstable than it already is. The original NTW game was released 8 years ago this month on the 32 bit OS which was predominant at the time. The advance of the 64 bit OS today brings more instability to the campaign in the later turns with all of the mod changes in the db tables.
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Re: Constructive feedback, suggestions, bugs

Postby Black Serpent » Mon Feb 05, 2018 2:52 pm

Lord Davn wrote:Give it a try if you'd like to change the background for the unit cards for the SPC mod. I'll pm you the blank unit card files that we use.

Sounds good! Would also help to point me to their parent .pack file, and their path within it (just so I can play around and actually see how it looks like before sending it back).

Lord Davn wrote:I thought about adding some US naval & land units to the SPC mod but the coding gets complicated in the db tables and would likely make the campaign game more unstable than it already is. The original NTW game was released 8 years ago this month on the 32 bit OS which was predominant at the time. The advance of the 64 bit OS today brings more instability to the campaign in the later turns with all of the mod changes in the db tables.


I see, well that's certainly a shame... US land units probably wouldn't be appropriate anyway in SPC, since it's restricted to the European theatre - just a couple of light fleets (merchants and custom US frigates), mainly for the historical immersion and to have an element challenging the Royal Navy (e.g. Atlantic trade and light warships) later in the campaign, would have been a cool addition.

How about adding the US faction in MP naval battles?

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Re: Constructive feedback, suggestions, bugs

Postby skillfultree » Wed Feb 07, 2018 10:02 am

I'd still like to see other factions added. French Royalist / Bourbons faction? Serb revolt in the Ottoman empire?

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Re: Constructive feedback, suggestions, bugs

Postby JohnyNawalony » Fri Feb 09, 2018 2:10 pm

The Duchy of Warsaw's [Polish] Uniforms and names are in some cases pretty unhistorical.

Polish infantry regiments should be called for instance Pułk 3. Piechoty [3rd Infantry Regiment] instead of "3. Pułk Liniowy" [3rd Line Infantry Regiment] as it is unhistorical

Polish units wear indigo greatcoats with 2 rows of buttons, historically they wore grey greatcoats with 1 row
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Polish National Guard is called in-game "Gwardia Narodowa ~Pijacy~" [National Guard ~Drunkards~] it doesn't really make sense

6th Infantry Regiments wear white uniforms with blue facings. The only regiment in the polish army that wore such uniform was 13th Infantry regiment.
Assuming that you want the uniforms to be accurate with the 1810 uniform regulation [The regulation stated that all regiments should wear the same uniforms, but many regiments derogated from the rules and for instance the 5th infantry regiment's grenadiers wore a different bearskin plate], they should wear such uniform [without the golden strap on the czapka, it was reserved for NCOs in the polish army
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According to the 1810 regulation, all infantry units should wear the same kind of uniforms - Indigo, with white facings [3 regiments didn't receive the new uniforms, because at the time they were fighting in Spain along with the French army, namely 4., 7. and 9th infantry regiment, in addition the 9th wore french shakos]
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All drummers should wear white uniforms with white facings and 6 chevrons on each sleeve
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Polish Cuirassiers instead of being named 14-ty Pułk Kirasjerów, or Półk 14. Iazdy Kirassierów is called "14-ty kirasjerzy". Their trumpeter has an all-white uniform, whilst he should wear a white uniform, with gold-red details
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Prince Poniatowski should, and theres a small typo in his unit name, instead of "Józef Poniatowski [Husarzy] should be changed to Józef Poniatowski [Huzarzy]
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And finally, the artillerist green should be a bit brighter
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Re: Constructive feedback, suggestions, bugs

Postby Lord Cosak » Mon Feb 12, 2018 8:48 am

Thank you for the feedback.

Haven't you noticed no unit is named "Regiment XXX"? No "Régiment de ligne", or "brigade", and so on... It's the same for the Polish, so no "pulk", as it can easily mislead about the units' scale.

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Re: Constructive feedback, suggestions, bugs

Postby Black Serpent » Mon Feb 12, 2018 11:26 am

Black Serpent wrote:Haha yes, MP battles ARE pretty close to being flawless. Though I HAVE had an issue with 6lb horse artillery (playing as UK at least): if you try to re-limber and move somewhere else it gets stuck and won't move, nor un-limber back where it was and continue shooting - beomes pretty much useless. Happened a couple of times, not sure if it's fixable.


Quick correction, MP Classic Battles: it's the 9lb horse artillery (Britain 1915) with the issue. I've had it again, once I tried to re-limber and re-deploy it became useless: wouldn't re-limber, wouldn't fire any more.

Also, SPC: Austria and Russia have vanilla flags in campaign UI (armies and navies too) - in battle and at top (end-turn), flags are OK I think
Minor issue: Spain general bodyguard's uniform crazy, multicoloured

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Re: Constructive feedback, suggestions, bugs

Postby iSandlwana » Mon Feb 12, 2018 12:06 pm

Very interesting reading, especially about the Polish Legions. I have been reading recently about them, and trying to do very limited research. Would be great if we can get it more historical, and grow the choices for Poland so it resembles the composition of the Army of the Duchy of Warsaw.

Also an advocate for the French Royalist Army. I did do a lot of research and preliminary work on the feasibility of making a Quiberon/Invasion of France 1795 French Royalist faction. I think that would have been really interesting ... if it is still an idea, I do still have all the information :)


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