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Re: Rating Napoleon's Best Marshals

Postby nAp_75 » Thu Mar 27, 2014 8:42 am

Pleased to share my personal ranking:

1. (tie) Davout, Lannes
2. (tie) Ney, Bessières, Lefebvre, Suchet, Poniatowski
3. (tie) Murat, Masséna, Mortier, Oudinot, de Marmont, de Grouchy
4. (tie) Berthier, de Moncey , Augereau, Soult, Victor-Perrin, MacDonald
5. (tie) Kellermann, Brune, St. Cyr
6. (tie) Jourdan, Bernadotte, de Pérignon, Sérurier
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Re: Rating Napoleon's Best Marshals

Postby oOIYvYIOo » Thu Mar 27, 2014 8:57 am

You forgot Marshal Da Motta .
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Re: Rating Napoleon's Best Marshals

Postby nAp_75 » Thu Mar 27, 2014 9:03 am

Davout

[+]
Campagne d'Égypte
Bataille de Marengo
Bataille d'Ulm
Bataille d'Austerlitz
Bataille d'Auerstaedt
Bataille d'Eylau
Bataille de Friedland
Bataille d'Eckmühl
Bataille de Wagram
Bataille de la Moskowa
Bataille de Rocquencourt

[-]


Lannes

[+]
Bataille du pont de Lodi
Bataille de Bassano
Bataille du pont d'Arcole
Bataille de Montebello
Bataille d'Ulm
Bataille d'Austerlitz
Bataille d'Iéna
Bataille de Pułtusk
Bataille de Friedland
Bataille d'Essling

[-]


Ney

[+]
Bataille de Hohenlinden
Bataille d’Elchingen
Bataille d’Ulm
Bataille d’Iéna
Bataille de Friedland
Bataille d’Eylau
Bataille de Ponte Sampaio
Bataille de Redinha
Bataille de Smolensk
Bataille de la Moskowa
Bataille de la Bérézina
Bataille de Waterloo

[-]
Shady mass cavalry-charge at the Battle of Waterloo

Bessieres

[+]
Bataille de Rivoli
Bataille de Marengo
Bataille d'Austerlitz
Bataille d'Iéna
Bataille d'Eylau
Bataille de Medina del Rio Seco
Bataille de Landshut
Bataille d’Essling
Bataille de Wagram
Compagne de Russie
Battle of Borodino

[-]
As commander of Guard Cavalry too tentative during the Battle of Borodino

Lefebvre

[+]
Bataille de Stockach
Bataille d'Iéna
Bataille d'Eylau
Bataille d’Eggmuehl
Bataille de Wagram
Bataille de Montmirail
Bataille de Arcis sur Aube
Bataille de Champeaubert

[-]


Souchet

[+]
Bataille d'Austerlitz
Bataille d'Iéna
Bataille de Saalfeld
Bataille de Pułtusk
Campagne d'Espagne (1808-1809) ;
Siège de Valence, Siège de Saragosse;
Bataille d’Alcañiz
Bataille de María

[-]


Poniatowski

[+]
Compagne de Russie ;
Bataille de la Moskowa
Bataille de Wachau
Bataille de Leipzig

[-]


Murat

[+]
Campagne d'Italie (1796-1797)
Campagne d'Égypte
Bataille de Marengo
Bataille d'Austerlitz
Bataille d'Iéna
Bataille d'Eylau
Bataille de la Moskowa
Bataille de Leipzig
Bataille de Tolentino

[-]
at Leipzig already mentally absent, in order to save his own throne

Masséna

[+]
Bataille de Lonato
Bataille de Zurich
Bataille de Marengo
Bataille de Aspern-Essling
Bataille de Wagram
Bataille de Buçaco
Bataille de Fuentes de Oñoro

[-]
weak performance during the invasion of Portugal in 1810

Mortier

[+]
Bataille de Liptingen
Bataille de Stockach
Bataille de Friedland
Campagne d'Espagne
Siège de Valence ; Siège de Saragosse
Bataille de Borodino
Bataille de Bautzen
Bataille de Leipzig
Bataille de Dresde
Bataille de Paris

[-]
More a commander of rearguards and covering detachments

Oudinot

[+]
Bataille d'Austerlitz
Bataille d'Iéna
Bataille de Friedland
Bataille de Wagram
Compagne de Russie
Bataille de Polozk
Bataille de Bautzen
Bataille de Leipzig

[-]
Defeated by Buelow at Battle near Luckau

de Marmont

[+]
Bataille de Marengo
Bataille de Wagram
Bataille de Znaim
Bataille de Salamanca
Bataille de Leipzig

[-]


de Grouchy

[+]
Campagne d'Espagne (1808-1809)
Bataille de Raab
Bataille de Wagram
Compagne de Russie ;
Bataille de Krasnoi
Bataille de Smolensk
Bataille de la Moskowa
Bataille de Brienne
Bataille de La Rothière
Bataille de Vauchamps
Bataille de Montmirail
Bataille de Ligny
Bataille de Wavre
Bataille de Waterloo

[-]
Fatal error when he decided to follow the Prussians after the Battle of Wagram while they and British-Dutch armies united to crush Napoleon at Waterloo

Berthier

[+]
Campagne d'Italie (1796-1797)
Campagne d'Égypte
Bataille de Marengo
Bataille d'Austerlitz
Bataille d'Eylau
Bataille de Friedland
Bataille d'Iéna
Bataille de Wagram
Bataille de la Moskowa
Bataille de Leipzig
Bataille de Brienne

[-]
during the campaign of 1812 in Russia he failed as chief of staff.

de Moncey

[+]
Campagne d'Italie (1799-1800) ;
Campagne d'Espagne (1808-1809) ;
Siège de Valence, Siège de Saragosse;
Campagne de France
Bataille de Paris

[-]
refused to serve in the invasion of Russia

Augereau

[+]
Bataille de Millesimo
Bataille du pont de Lodi
Bataille d'Eylau
Bataille de Leipzig
Bataille de Saint-Georges

[-]
did never exploit his maximum potential … with exception of Leipzig maybe…

Soult

[+]
Bataille de Zurich
Bataille d'Austerlitz
Bataille d'Eylau
Bataille d'Heilsberg
Bataille de Bautzen
Bataille de Toulouse

[-]
He allowed his personal ambitions to distract him from his military duty; tactically always good, but too often poor in execution

Victor-Perrin

[+]
Bataille de Montebello
Bataille de Marengo
Bataille d'Iéna
Bataille d'Auerstaedt
Bataille de Friedland
Bataille de Leipzig
Bataille de Dresde
Bataille de Craonne

[-]
Poor performance at Battle of Talavera against Wellington

MacDonald

[+]
Bataille de Jemappes
Bataille de la Trebbia
Bataille de Marengo
Bataille de Wagram
Bataille de Luetzen
Bataille de Leipzig

[-]
Met his personal Waterloo at Battle of Katzbach against Bluecher and Gneisenau

Kellermann

[+]
Campagne d'Italie (1796-1797)
Bataille de Waterloo

[-]
More a commander in reserve as an “active” one

Brune

[+]
Bataille de Brécourt
Bataille de Bergen
Bataille de Alkmaar
Bataille de Castricum
Bataille de Pozzolo

[-]
to the core unremarkable

Saint-Cyr

[+]
Bataille de Pułtusk
Campagne d'Espagne (1808-1809)
Bataille de Dresde

[-]
mainly unremarkable

Jourdan

[+]
Bataille d'Ostrach
Bataille de Stockach
Bataille de Talavera
Bataille de Vitoria

[-]
totally blamed for the defeat at the Battle of Talavera; overall more losses than wins

Bernadotte

[+]
Bataille d'Ulm
Bataille d'Austerlitz
Bataille de Wagram
Bataille de Gross-Beeren
Bataille de Dennewitz
Bataille de Leipzig

[-]
Overrated general

de Pérignon

[+]
Battle of Novi

[-]
“office general”

Sérurier

[+]
Campagne d'Italie (1796-1797)

[-]
“office general”
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Re: Rating Napoleon's Best Marshals

Postby nAp_75 » Thu Mar 27, 2014 9:12 am

Da Motta wrote:You forgot Marshal Da Motta .


:mrgreen: noncompetitive :mrgreen:
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Re: Rating Napoleon's Best Marshals

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nAp_75 wrote:
:mrgreen: noncompetitive :mrgreen:


I will keep it as a secret ...
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Re: Rating Napoleon's Best Marshals

Postby MAK » Sat Mar 29, 2014 10:54 pm

Da Motta wrote:You forgot Marshal Da Motta .


and marshal lancier
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Re: Rating Napoleon's Best Marshals

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MAK wrote:
Da Motta wrote:You forgot Marshal Da Motta .


and marshal lancier


And our Sommerset ,unbeatable in the battlefield ...
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Re: Rating Napoleon's Best Marshals

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Da Motta wrote:
MAK wrote:
Da Motta wrote:You forgot Marshal Da Motta .


and marshal lancier


And our Sommerset ,unbeatable in the battlefield ...


Let's hope so, by goodness! :cool:
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Re: Rating Napoleon's Best Marshals

Postby Lord Lancier » Sat Apr 19, 2014 12:07 pm

thanks MAK but dont be unfair to yourself, especially after the great tourney in april 2013 ... by the way nice costume i like marshal bessières too.
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Postby GoldSabre » Sat Apr 19, 2014 2:29 pm

The author did haphazardly throw in Welly. In opinions of forum posts, debates will happen. Aside from announcements, it seems to be the function of one (forum).
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Postby nAp_75 » Tue Apr 22, 2014 2:46 pm

Lancier wrote:thanks MAK but dont be unfair to yourself, especially after the great tourney in april 2013 ... by the way nice costume i like marshal bessières too.
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Da Motta wrote:You forgot Marshal Da Motta .


and marshal lancier


thanks mate! :cool:
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Postby Lord Lancier » Tue Apr 22, 2014 2:50 pm

... but still i would prefer you chose another one as my old friends think you are me :shocked: :eek: :rolleyes: (as my prev avatar was that one) anyway nevermind sir have good time in lordz.
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mate everyone already knows ...
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lol second time the same trap, congratulations you two ... so glad uninstalling ntw3 sir i suggest you do the same. :wink:
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Lancier wrote:lol second time the same trap, congratulations you two ... so glad uninstalling ntw3 sir i suggest you do the same. :wink:


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Re: Rating Napoleon's Best Marshals

Postby Lord Lancier » Tue Apr 22, 2014 5:44 pm

very funny congratulations :clap: as usual ...
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Lancier wrote:very funny congratulations :clap: as usual ...
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Lancier wrote:lol second time the same trap, congratulations you two ... so glad uninstalling ntw3 sir i suggest you do the same. :wink:


i wastalking with nAp there


no way ... I love this..let's say "confusion" :mrgreen:
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its always good to talk to old friend Motta, by the way lordz ts is this i think everyone must visit sometime ...
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I bet that i will never get Lancier and nAp on ts talking with me :looney: . Just khaving some fun .
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Postby Lord Lancier » Tue Apr 22, 2014 7:00 pm

i am on ts since '2009' Motta. i dont care about others sorry.
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I bet that i will never get Lancier and nAp on ts talking with me :looney: . Just khaving some fun .

also i cant play sniper elite and the game ntw3 that i dont have on computer at the same time. but have fun np your an old friend still. but be careful dont hurt nap_75 feelings, if you dont know him from somewhere.
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Re: Rating Napoleon's Best Marshals

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But you dont need to be playing :razz: .
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' i dont need to be playing' wow ..? i know no one care but you want something from me as you mention my name always or make strange commments to me, i can be on TS anytime you like after work at nights if you want me to.
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Re: Rating Napoleon's Best Marshals

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Lancier wrote:' i dont need to be playing' wow ..? i know no one care but you want something from me as you mention my name always or make strange commments to me, i can be on TS anytime you like after work at nights if you want me to.
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Wait where did i started to call your name here ?
Quote me saying you are nAp ,somerset on this topic .
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Re: Rating Napoleon's Best Marshals

Postby Lord Lancier » Wed Apr 23, 2014 5:08 am

I was talking about this ... but maybe you were only joking i dont know. Sorry i cant follow all post to answer, if someone try to act as if he is me shame on him only thing i can say. for the last time, game is not installed on my computer, i only play histwar and sniper elite thats all. i will send you view of my steam game list anytime you like. have good gaming.
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Re: Rating Napoleon's Best Marshals

Postby nAp_75 » Thu Apr 24, 2014 2:34 pm

:mrgreen: I am tickled...pink :rofl:
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